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A comparison between the good and the bad. A few of the comments rang true.
To those who try to protect RoP by saying it's just a tv show while Return of the King is a movie:
RoP had a much higher budget, much higher than the whole trilogy. That isn't an excuse.
The differences will always be:
LOTR was made by an army of skilled and selfless Artists.
ROP was commissioned by a lizard and trundled to life by a nameless group of office gremlins.
It is generally agreed that $1 billion was spent on Rings of Power. If we take into account inflation, this would be $587 million in 2002, during the middle of filming of LOTR. The budget of LOTR was $281 million. So, even adjusted for inflation, the budget of ROP was still a whopping 108.8% higher than LOTR.
Second, LOTR total run time (Extended Editions) is 683 minutes. Total run time of all ROP episodes is approximately 560 minutes across all 8 episodes. This means that "They had to spread the budget out over a bunch of TV episodes" doesn't hold water because the movie is actually longer than the show while spending signigicantly less.
Third, comparing the run times and using the 2002 dollar valuation, that's $411,420 it cost per minute of LOTR footage, compared to $1,048,214 per minute of ROP footage. So, even adjusted for inflation and broken down by runtime, ROP cost 154.7% per minute to make than LOTR.
Whatever way you slice it, Rings of Power spent way more money and managed to do an exceptionally shittier job.
“He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.” - Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien
Necron 99 wrote: ↑January 17th, 2024, 8:25 am<snip>
LOTR was made by an army of skilled and selfless passionate Artists.
ROP was commissioned by a lizard and trundled to life by a nameless group of office gremlins.
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Whatever way you slice it, Rings of Power spent way more money and managed to do an exceptionally shittier job.
I made a minor edit. Folks who helped produce the LotR films were compensated so I replaced selfless with passionate.
The passion of an artist gives his/her work a "soul" if that makes sense. Peter Jackson and company showed that.
Amazon studios is owned by a billionaire business mogul who, while successful, is not a passionate artist. He has a mind of wheels. In the effort to milk a franchise for an ongoing series, he overpaid for getting precious little. To do RoP right, the second age of The Silmarillion must be faithfully adapted. Since the rights to that book weren't secured, the mogul, lacking artistry and passion, turned everything over to inexperienced hacks lacking both qualities. What we produced was truly awful fanfic.
“Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” - Carl Sagan
“He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.” - Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien
The stunning and brave 15th Doctor states in an interview, he wants an episode of the show to include TWERKing on a monster to defeat/destroy it.
Welcome to modern Dr. Who.
“He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.” - Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien
Necron 99 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2024, 9:32 am
The stunning and brave 15th Doctor states in an interview, he wants an episode of the show to include TWERKing on a monster to defeat/destroy it.
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Emphasis mine.
A competent show runner wold recognize this for the shite it is and tell the actor to stay in his lane. If this awful idea is adopted and filmed then it is all the evidence required that the writers are out of ideas. The show should then be put out of its, and our, misery.
“Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” - Carl Sagan
Another new Drinker clip. Not familiar with this one, but sounds like that's a good thing.
“He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.” - Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien
Just my personal opinion, but this person is a f**king moron.
In other news, actor Bernard Hill, best known for roles in Titanic and Lord of the Rings, has passed into the West, age 79.
He played Captain Edward Smith in the 1997 Oscar-winning film and King Théoden in the Lord of the Rings.
His breakout role was in 1982 BBC TV drama Boys from the Blackstuff, where he portrayed Yosser Hughes, a character who struggled - and often failed - to cope with unemployment in Liverpool.
He died early on Sunday morning, his agent Lou Coulson confirmed.
With him at the time were his fiancee Alison and his son Gabriel.
Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd, the actors who played the hobbits Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, paid tribute to their co-star at Comic Con in Liverpool.
Astin began by saying: "We love him. He was intrepid, he was funny, he was gruff, he was irascible, he was beautiful."
Boyd recounted watching the trilogy with Monaghan, saying: "I don't think anyone spoke Tolkien's words as great as Bernard did. He would break my heart. He will be solely missed."
“He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.” - Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien
Necron 99 wrote: ↑May 6th, 2024, 11:02 am
Just my personal opinion, but this person is a f**king moron.
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I know folks are entitled to their opinions but day-umn that's some deep level dumb there. That just reinforces my decision years ago to stop posting a DF if that's the caliber of thinking going on.
Necron 99 wrote: ↑May 6th, 2024, 11:02 amIn other news, actor Bernard Hill, best known for roles in Titanic and Lord of the Rings, has passed into the West, age 79.
He played Captain Edward Smith in the 1997 Oscar-winning film and King Théoden in the Lord of the Rings.
His breakout role was in 1982 BBC TV drama Boys from the Blackstuff, where he portrayed Yosser Hughes, a character who struggled - and often failed - to cope with unemployment in Liverpool.
He died early on Sunday morning, his agent Lou Coulson confirmed.
With him at the time were his fiancee Alison and his son Gabriel.
Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd, the actors who played the hobbits Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, paid tribute to their co-star at Comic Con in Liverpool.
Astin began by saying: "We love him. He was intrepid, he was funny, he was gruff, he was irascible, he was beautiful."
Boyd recounted watching the trilogy with Monaghan, saying: "I don't think anyone spoke Tolkien's words as great as Bernard did. He would break my heart. He will be solely missed."
Farewell, Mr. Hill!
All hail the victorious dead!
“Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” - Carl Sagan
