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Post October 5th, 2023, 8:45 am

More passages that really evoke a sense of Middle-earth. I took a break during July, August, and most of September from listening to the rest of the book, it just didn't seem to be applicable during the hottest months here. Once the weather started changing at the end of September and the first hints of Fall appeared, I started it back up.

OF HERBS AND STEWED RABBIT, as Frodo, Sam, and Gollum enter into the the northern marches, the lands of Ithilien.
Day was opening in the sky, and they saw that the mountains were now much further off, receding eastward in a long curve that was lost in the distance. Before them, as they turned west, gentle slopes ran down into dim hazes far below. All about them were small woods of resinous trees, fir and cedar and cypress, and other kinds unknown in the Shire, with wide glades among them; and everywhere there was a wealth of sweet-smelling herbs and shrubs. The long journey from Rivendell had brought them far south of their own land, but not until now in this more sheltered region had the hobbits felt the change of clime. Here Spring was already busy about them: fronds pierced moss and mould, larches were green-fingered, small flowers were opening in the turf, birds were singing. Ithilien, the garden of Gondor now desolate kept still a dishevelled dryad loveliness.

South and west it looked towards the warm lower vales of Anduin, shielded from the east by the Ephel Du´ ath and yet not under the mountain-shadow, protected from the north by the Emyn Muil, open to the southern airs and the moist winds from the Sea far away. Many great trees grew there, planted long ago, falling into untended age amid a riot of careless descendants; and groves and thickets there were of tamarisk and pungent terebinth, of olive and of bay; and there were junipers and myrtles; and thymes that grew in bushes, or with their woody creeping stems mantled in deep tapestries the hidden stones; sages of many kinds putting forth blue flowers, or red, or pale green; and marjorams and new-sprouting parsleys, and many herbs of forms and scents beyond the garden-lore of Sam. The grots and rocky walls were already starred with saxifrages and stonecrops. Primeroles and anemones were awake in the filbert-brakes; and asphodel and many lily-flowers nodded their half-opened heads in the grass: deep green grass beside the pools, where falling streams halted in cool hollows on their journey down to Anduin.

From THE FORBIDDEN POOL, as Frodo, Sam, and Gollum sit and talk with Faramir about their plans to depart and continue the journey to Mordor.
Nothing certain, said Faramir. We of Gondor do not ever pass east of the Road in these days, and none of us younger men has ever done so, nor has any of us set foot upon the Mountains of Shadow. Of them we know only old report and the rumour of bygone days. But there is some dark terror that dwells in the passes above Minas Morgul. If Cirith Ungol is named, old men and masters of lore will blanch and fall silent.

The valley of Minas Morgul passed into evil very long ago, and it was a menace and a dread while the banished Enemy dwelt yet far away, and Ithilien was still for the most part in our keeping. As you know, that city was once a strong place, proud and fair, Minas Ithil, the twin sister of our own city. But it was taken by fell men whom the Enemy in his first strength had dominated, and who wandered homeless and masterless after his fall. It is said that their lords were men of Numenor who had fallen into dark wickedness; to them the Enemy had given rings of power, and he had devoured them: living ghosts they were become, terrible and evil. After his going they took Minas Ithil and dwelt there, and they filled it, and all the valley about, with decay: it seemed empty and was not so, for a shapeless fear lived within the ruined walls. Nine Lords there were, and after the return of their Master, which they aided and prepared in secret, they grew strong again. Then the Nine Riders issued forth from the gates of horror, and we could not withstand them. Do not approach their citadel. You will be espied. It is a place of sleepless malice, full of lidless eyes. Do not go that way!
“He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.” - Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien

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Post January 14th, 2024, 10:34 am

Finishing up the last of The Return of the King, I've started back listening to the audio book during walks.

This morning two parts from THE BATTLE OF THE PELENNOR FIELDS stood out as little details which carried weight in them. The first was the conversation and parting between Merry and Theoden.
Then Merry stooped and lifted his hand to kiss it, and lo! Theoden opened his eyes, and they were clear, and he spoke in a quiet voice
though laboured.

‘Farewell, Master Holbytla!’ he said. ‘My body is broken. I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed. I felled the black serpent. A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset!’

Merry could not speak, but wept anew. ‘Forgive me, lord,’ he said at last, ‘if I broke your command, and yet have done no more in your service than to weep at our parting.’ The old king smiled. ‘Grieve not! It is forgiven. Great heart will not be denied. Live now in blessedness; and when you sit in peace with your pipe, think of me! For never now shall I sit with you in Meduseld, as I promised, or listen to your herb-lore.’ He closed his eyes, and Merry bowed beside him.
Of all the things that could be said by Theoden, I love how Tolkien thought so much of their earlier conversations as to include this remembrance of the herb-lore.

Again, I love Tolkien's approach to telling you of what happens in the future, after the story ends, and after specific deeds have been done. This one in reference to the disposal of the fell-beast and the burial of Snowmane.
And afterwards when all was over men returned and made a fire there and burned the carcase of the beast; but for Snowmane they dug a grave and set up a stone upon which was carved in the tongues of Gondor and the Mark:

Faithful servant yet master’s bane,
Lightfoot’s foal, swift Snowmane.


Green and long grew the grass on Snowmane’s Howe, but ever black and bare was the ground where the beast was burned.
“He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.” - Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien

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Post January 15th, 2024, 2:23 am

To The Professor! :toast:
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Post January 26th, 2024, 8:32 am

...and so my journey has come full circle. I finished my adventure with the Fellowship and returned back to The Shire, once again. The last of the little details that caught my attention comes from the chapter, The Scouring of the Shire, after the final fight among the hobbits and the ruffians.
At last all was over. Nearly seventy of the ruffians lay dead on the field, and a dozen were prisoners. Nineteen hobbits were killed, and some thirty were wounded. The dead ruffians were laden on wagons and hauled off to an old sand-pit nearby and there buried: in the Battle Pit, as it was afterwards called. The fallen hobbits were laid together in a grave on the hill-side, where later a great stone was set up with a garden about it.

I like Tolkien's take on simply disposing of the ruffians in a sand pit, while the fallen hobbits are laid to rest in a named grave, with stone and garden. It just fits immeasurably well with what you'd expect from Shire-folk.
“He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.” - Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien

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Post January 26th, 2024, 9:46 am

Necron 99 wrote: January 26th, 2024, 8:32 am ...and so my journey has come full circle. I finished my adventure with the Fellowship and returned back to The Shire, once again. The last of the little details that caught my attention comes from the chapter, The Scouring of the Shire, after the final fight among the hobbits and the ruffians.
At last all was over. Nearly seventy of the ruffians lay dead on the field, and a dozen were prisoners. Nineteen hobbits were killed, and some thirty were wounded. The dead ruffians were laden on wagons and hauled off to an old sand-pit nearby and there buried: in the Battle Pit, as it was afterwards called. The fallen hobbits were laid together in a grave on the hill-side, where later a great stone was set up with a garden about it.

I like Tolkien's take on simply disposing of the ruffians in a sand pit, while the fallen hobbits are laid to rest in a named grave, with stone and garden. It just fits immeasurably well with what you'd expect from Shire-folk.
Assholes get sand. Good guys get gardens. :tup:
I noted The Professor's word choice: the ruffians are dead while the hobbits are fallen.
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