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Post April 17th, 2022, 10:11 pm

From Appendix N, I started reading Fred Saberhagen's Empire of the East series last year when I received my copy of the DCC setting for that series. The first book was ok, I enjoyed it, nothing too out there but it did have some really cool elements to magic used, especially when summoning elementals, djinn, and demons.

I jumped out of the series after the first book and started reading something else, but just started back on book two, The Black Mountains, last week and moving through it pretty well. While reading I noticed some really interesting aspects in regards to the story and elements found in D&D.

The first one that stood out to me was the continued use of the term "fighting men" and "fighting man", which plays directly into the the fighter class in Original D&D.
Still scowling, Chup asked: “Is there not some mistake in this? I am to serve Som as a fighting man.”
“Just so, Brother Chup. Would you deign to visit the dungeons with my Master of the Games? I’m sure no one in my employ could pick out fighting men as well as you can. You may even find one or two with real training—if not, I know you’ll spot the raw ability…”
Walking the main, buried corridors of the citadel Chup took note of the fighting men he saw. He supposed the garrison might number a thousand if all were mobilized; but the five hundred elite Guardsmen should be easily able to hold the natural defenses of the place against Thomas’s four thousand or so.
I can't help but wonder if this is where Gary pulled the label used in D&D or if it was just a general term found in other sources or used to describe fighters of any type at that time.

Also in the series, which I have not actually gotten to yet, is a reference to and characterization of the the demon "Orcus". I know Orcus appears in this series and I'm looking forward to reading how the demon is introduced and what part he plays in the story.

There are also some cool aspects like an encounter with a Giant Centipede and lesser demons which kind of have a feel of the "winged demons" that are mentioned in REH's Conan stories.
Instead he looked up at once to the upper vaulting of the high chamber. By the light of the ensorceled treasure, he saw that up there the seven guardian demons hung, where Hann’s three words had sent them, like malformed bats in fine gray gossamer robes. They were head down, with arms or forelegs—it was hard to specify—that hung below their heads. Several of the dangling limbs hung nearly to the level of Chup’s head, so elongated were the demons’ shapes. One had a gray blur of a talon run like a fishhook through the hide of small furry beast, a living toy that struggled and squeaked incessantly to be free, and very slowly dripped red blood. As Chup watched the demons, they began to drone, like humans newly fallen asleep who start to snore.
There's also no doubt that this series influenced Bakshi's Wizards in some manner. The setting is fantasy, but elements of technology from earlier civilizations is present and even the mention of "nuclear technology" and such have a place.

If it hadn't been for Goodman Games putting out the setting supplement, I probably would have never known about this series. So far I'm enjoying it a lot and plan to finish it up. When I'm done, I think I'll look into some other Appendix N books to work through.
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Post April 19th, 2022, 10:46 pm

Ancalagon wrote: March 8th, 2022, 9:10 pm I've not read any B Sanderson but may get around to it one of these years since he finished Wheel of Time after R Jordan's death. The video had a lot of people expressing envy and jealousy. All I can say to them is never stop working on your craft, market your writings more effectively to the target audience, and maybe you'll catch a break, too. Sanderson's break came when R Jordan died and he was able to step in.
Sanderson may have topped the bestseller list for the first time with The Gathering Storm, but he was already quite popular in the fantasy sphere well before Jordan's death. I'm 10 years behind you lot so I was little more exposed to newer authors at that time, I think. The first Mistborn triliogy was complete and a big commercial success well before he started finishing off Jordan's opus. It was the popularity and styling of the first Mistborn book that lead Jordan's wife to pick him to finish off The Wheel of Time.

I can say that I quite enjoyed the first Mistborn Trilogy. Enough that I read it through a second time about 5 years ago. It held up well enough, but I haven't been particularly keen on delving into the later books. They are set in a completely different era, far into the future. I will say that I have enjoyed The Way of Kings books so far, but they are monster tomes and the series is not finished. Unlike another Author I will not mention Sanderson prides himself on meeting deadlines, so I have faith that he will finish the series but I've put it on hold until he does.
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Post April 19th, 2022, 10:49 pm

Necron 99 wrote: March 9th, 2022, 9:55 am Two of the more popular series that I'm aware of are the Mistborn series, and The Stormlight Archive series. The Way of Kings is the first book of The Stormlight Archive, and the one that's on my list to read; my supervisor at Moody read it and said he really enjoyed it. I think Mistborn has seven books and TSA has four.
Mistborn is split into Era's, with a trilogy dedicated to each. The third era only has one book so far, but there are some side novellas for support characters from each era too. The Stormlight Archive is up to four books, but I believe it has at least six books planned.
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Post April 20th, 2022, 12:48 pm

Captain_Blood wrote: April 19th, 2022, 10:46 pm
Ancalagon wrote: March 8th, 2022, 9:10 pm I've not read any B Sanderson but may get around to it one of these years since he finished Wheel of Time after R Jordan's death. The video had a lot of people expressing envy and jealousy. All I can say to them is never stop working on your craft, market your writings more effectively to the target audience, and maybe you'll catch a break, too. Sanderson's break came when R Jordan died and he was able to step in.
Sanderson may have topped the bestseller list for the first time with The Gathering Storm, but he was already quite popular in the fantasy sphere well before Jordan's death. I'm 10 years behind you lot so I was little more exposed to newer authors at that time, I think. The first Mistborn triliogy was complete and a big commercial success well before he started finishing off Jordan's opus. It was the popularity and styling of the first Mistborn book that lead Jordan's wife to pick him to finish off The Wheel of Time.

I can say that I quite enjoyed the first Mistborn Trilogy. Enough that I read it through a second time about 5 years ago. It held up well enough, but I haven't been particularly keen on delving into the later books. They are set in a completely different era, far into the future. I will say that I have enjoyed The Way of Kings books so far, but they are monster tomes and the series is not finished. Unlike another Author I will not mention Sanderson prides himself on meeting deadlines, so I have faith that he will finish the series but I've put it on hold until he does.
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Good info. Wasn't aware of the Mistborn trilogy. :lol:
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Post May 12th, 2022, 8:15 am

Finished up The Black Mountain and moved on to the final book in the Empire of the East trilogy, Ardneh's World.

Also started listening to Stephen King's IT on audiobook during my morning or evening walks around the neighborhood. I've seen the 90s series and the first movie of the new duo that came out. Still need to watch IT Chapter 2, may do that this weekend. Really enjoying the audiobook, the narrator does a pretty good job so far, the voice acting for the various characters, especially some of the ones for Pennywise are really good.
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Post May 13th, 2022, 10:59 am

Finished up the Schooled In Magic series by Christopher Nuttall. It's a 24 book series. No that is not a typo. Each one is pretty much a self contained story that follows a 17 y/o girl who is kidnapped from modern day Earth to the Nameless World where magic is very real and technology is stuck in the early middle ages. The first several books are very much in the magic boarding school style, with the odd numbers being focused on the school year and the even numbers being focused on what happens in between school terms. By the end of the series the protagonist, Emily, is a very different character from the beginning. I mean she is well into her 20s by that point. I like to think it's kind of like a Harry Potter series where the main character actually learns to think for herself and grows over time. Also the world scales beyond the original school without any of the problems the HP series has.

Each book runs about 250 - 350 pages and like I said before is a complete story, with the exception of only about 6 books towards the end. They are very easy reads and each book is about $4 dollars on Amazon. I highly recommend if you enjoy this kind of story.

EDIT: Jay I know your wife is really into HP. Martina is too, and she very much likes this series as well. So it may be a good one for her too.
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Post May 13th, 2022, 5:50 pm

Captain_Blood wrote: May 13th, 2022, 10:59 amEDIT: Jay I know your wife is really into HP. Martina is too, and she very much likes this series as well. So it may be a good one for her too.
Awesome, I'll let her know. Thanks!
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Post June 14th, 2022, 1:56 pm

Finished the Empire of the East trilogy, really enjoyed the series. Still listening to King's IT on audio book during walks, a little over half-way through that one. Decided to jump into another Appendix N author and going with Tale of the Dying Earth by Jack Vance. Only into the second chapter/story but it's pretty fun to see how cut-throat the magic-users are in the setting. Spells for the most part, along with all magical knowledge really, is seriously guarded and kept secret, though there are also examples of apprenticing, though only after a service was provided to the mentor by the inquiring wizard, searching for knowledge.

The Vancian theme of magic and spell casting is front and center and it really shows off how Gygax intended casters in D&D to function. The spell caster impressing upon their brains a limited number of spells. I found it especially interesting when one scene describes how the wizard was able to memorize four greater spells or could choose to memorize six lessor spells. This sort of take on memorization definitely gives me the feeling of a spell point system, in regards to memorization, not casting. A caster memorizing spells could choose to use spell points to memorize a lesser number of high level spells, or more lower level spells, as opposed to a static number of spell slots allowed each level.

There is also the mention of how at one time a thousand spells were known across the world, but after a great upheaval, only 100 spells are currently known to exist, by man, and many of the sorcerers only have record of a limited number. It's mentioned that one particular magician has 73 of the known spells. This is actually a really good catalyst for caster class characters, a GM could definitely use this idea of "lost spells" as a hook for delves and adventures, seeking out knowledge that has been lost for ages.

We'll see how the rest of the book reads, I'm barely into it, but so far enjoying everything about the setting. I'm glad I went in on the DCC kickstarter for The Dying Earth, I think it will make a great addition to the game.
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Post July 8th, 2022, 9:45 pm

Taking a break from Dying Earth, started reading some short stories in Mysteries of the Worm, by Robert Bloch. Early tales of the Cthulhu Mythos.
H.P. Lovecraft like his creation, Cthulhu never truly died. He and his influence live on, in the work of so many of us who were his friends and acolytes. Today we have reason for rejoycing in the widespread revival of his canon. If a volume such as this has any justification for its existence, it s because Lovecraft s readers continue to search out stories which reflect his contribution to the field of fantasy. The tales in this book represent a lifelong homage to HPL. I hope you ll accept them for what they were and are a labor of love. - Robert Bloch
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Post July 9th, 2022, 1:14 am

Cool. Look forward to your thoughts after the reading.

I picked up a compilation of short stories and poems focused on the realm of Averoigne, set in medieval France by Clark Ashton Smith (CAS). Never before read any CAS. When I stumbled across him and saw that Averoigne was set in medieval France, my curiosity said, "Yes, please!"
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