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Post June 3rd, 2021, 3:43 pm

Was tooling around some old forums and read that Jeff Talanian is working on a 3rd edition of ASSH, now renamed to just Hyperborea.

Jeff put out a post on his own forums detailing the changes coming in the 3rd edition of the game, I'm pulling some copypasta here reflecting his post:
Physical Changes
- Two hardback set (same Smyth sewn binding, high quality paper)
- Possibly a slipcase as an add-on. It's being quoted for.
- Map reworked by Glynn Seal and to be presented in atlas format and special poster version.
- New layout, fonts, etc.
- Indexes in both books.

Branding
- Simplifying the branding and naming to HYPERBOREA, but "Astonishing Swordsmen & Sorcerers of Hyperborea" remains part of the scheme and is shown as a back cover subtitle.

People
- The game has been revised by the author.
- Editing by George Sedgwick.
- New cover art painted by Charles Lang (both books).
- Interior colour plates by Charles Lang, David Miller, Peter Mullen, and Val Semeiks (with Daisey Bingham)
- 26 new character illustrations by Diogo Nogueira.
- Chapter frame art by Del Teigeler.
- Gynn Seal has recoloured the map.
- More to be announced!

Content
- Cataphract new ability: shield sacrifice.
- Huntsman new ability: harvest venom.
- Paladin: Introduction of fell paladin, LE version of paladin. Also, cleric scroll reading ability at 7th level. High wisdom now grants bonus spells.
- Ranger now has scroll reading ability at 7th level. High wisdom now grants bonus druid spells cast per day, high intelligence grants bonus magician spells cast per day.
- Illusionist new ability: coloured globe.
- Witch brew decoction ability simplified and expanded. Also, certain detection spells can be cast through familiar.
- Monk has a decent overhaul to the entire class. It is the most changed class for 3E.
- Shaman new ability: harvest venom. Also, spells per day slightly improved.
- Assassin new ability: harvest venom.
- Bard spells per day slightly improved.
- Scout new abilities: disguise (like assassin) and run (like monk).
- 12 new playable character races (Anglo-Saxon, Carolingian Frank, Esquimaux-Ixian, Greek, Lapp, Lemurian, Moor, Mu, Oon, Roman, Tlingit, Yakut).
- Languages: More available languages available.
- Several new spells.
- Sorcerer types can learn a known spell from another caster type’s spell book, so long as it is on their list of learnable spells. For example, an illusionist can copy an invisibility spell from a magician’s spell book, but he can’t copy a magic missile spell, because that contains proprietary language. However, we separate thaumaturgical sorcery from ecclesiastical sorcery. So, a druid can copy a detect magic spell from a cleric’s prayer book, but he can’t do the same from a witch’s spell book.
- Characters need not memorize the regular spell or its reversed form; rather, they can decide at the last moment to invert the incantation and thus cast its reversible form. We have so many examples of spells in which the caster is deciding which version of the spell is being cast, and I realize resource management is part of the allure of a game like this, but I don’t see why a cleric can’t elect to use cause moderate wounds on a whim instead of cure moderate wounds, and so forth.
- Scroll-using characters can now invoke a scroll that is on their spell list, as long as it was not created by one who practices the opposite form of magic, which we are defining as thaumaturgic sorcery (magicians and subclasses) and ecclesiastic sorcery (clerics and druids), so a magician can indeed use a fireball scroll created by a pyromancer, and vice versa.
- Streamlined combat system (no more phases).
- New monsters.
- New magic items.
- And more!
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Post June 3rd, 2021, 10:41 pm

The only time I got to play the current version (2nd edition) was at GaryCon a few years ago in a game Francisca ran. Fun game!
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Post November 18th, 2021, 12:24 pm

Haven't played or run Hyperborea since my Solomon Kane adventure back in 2019 at Garycon. Saw that Jeff did an interview a while back, posting here for anyone that is interesting in watching/listening.

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Post February 22nd, 2022, 12:09 pm

I didn't go in on the Kickstarter, but I spoke with Jeff briefly on Facebook. I asked if he was planning to have copies of Hyprebora 3e for sale at NTRPG, but unfortunately he said it doesn't look like it. There was some hang-up with the printing and the books won't ship until the end of May, which means no chance to get them before the convention.

Personally, I like Jeff's game a lot, it's a nice compliment to AD&D, putting all of the focus on human characters and a more horrific setting, as opposed to high fantasy with the mix of human and demi-human. I went in on the 2nd Edition kickstarter, but honestly, I didn't like the single big tome for the game. I really liked the 1st edition box set with two spiral bound books, I'd love to see the 3rd edition get the same treatment at some point. But, at least with the new edition there are two separate books, one for Players and one for GM.
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Post February 23rd, 2022, 4:39 pm

I went in on the KS so am patiently waiting.

The big monster book for the 2nd Edition was really nice but a wee cumbersome to haul around a convention for several days. Plus, it took up some table space! The ring bound books of the original print run were great, compact, and required little room at the table!
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Post July 19th, 2022, 3:52 pm

I missed the KS, but Jeff put up pre-orders since he finally had the books and I put in an order. He emailed me to let me know it might be a few weeks before the order ships, because he was trying to get all of the KS pledges filled and shipped, which I totally understand.

Looking forward to getting the books, the new edition looks great.

On another note, for anyone interested in getting the PDFs cheap, DriveThruRPG is having a sale right now and you can get both the Player's Manual and Ref's Manual for $20.

All of his other adventures and products are on sale now, too.

Link to DTRPG: Hyperborea Sale

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Post July 23rd, 2022, 12:18 am

Ancalagon wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 4:39 pm I went in on the KS so am patiently waiting.

The big monster book for the 2nd Edition was really nice but a wee cumbersome to haul around a convention for several days. Plus, it took up some table space! The ring bound books of the original print run were great, compact, and required little room at the table!
... and still patiently waiting.
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Post July 30th, 2022, 12:35 am

Ancalagon wrote: July 23rd, 2022, 12:18 am
... and still patiently waiting.

Me too, although I only bought 2 of the Atlases (one to scribble in), and the new module by DMPrata. I'm fine sticking with the 1e/2e game.

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Post July 30th, 2022, 9:06 am

grodog wrote: July 30th, 2022, 12:35 am
Ancalagon wrote: July 23rd, 2022, 12:18 am
... and still patiently waiting.

Me too, although I only bought 2 of the Atlases (one to scribble in), and the new module by DMPrata. I'm fine sticking with the 1e/2e game.

Allan.
The original 1E was great, loved the spiral bound books that came in the box set, not as much a fan of the 2e big book. Still, if you have them, I can understand not wanting to get the newest printing. I came close to not getting them, but I think it compliments AD&D 1e so well, and I like Jeff and wanted to support him, so I decided to grab this edition and I'll put it on the shelf next to my 1e books.
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Post July 30th, 2022, 10:03 pm

Necron 99 wrote: July 30th, 2022, 9:06 amThe original 1E was great, loved the spiral bound books that came in the box set, not as much a fan of the 2e big book. Still, if you have them, I can understand not wanting to get the newest printing. I came close to not getting them, but I think it compliments AD&D 1e so well, and I like Jeff and wanted to support him, so I decided to grab this edition and I'll put it on the shelf next to my 1e books.
Emphasis mine.
The only times I've EVER played Hyperborea was at GaryCon. Not a lot of return on investment but Hyperborea is a damned fine game so no problem grabbing the most recent version.
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