LotR Thanksgiving Parade Float

Necron 99 · Post November 26th, 2022, 2:18 pm

Caught this from a group on FB. Not sure where or when this took place, but looks cool.

Ancalagon · Post November 26th, 2022, 4:46 pm

The float following hat one should be Nazgul.

Ancalagon · Post November 30th, 2022, 11:34 pm

Just because...

This animated version is miles and away superior to the travesty of the Hobbit films.

Necron 99 · Post December 1st, 2022, 7:31 pm

Agreed, 100% dude. The Hobbit Trilogy was not good, at all.

Ancalagon · Post December 1st, 2022, 11:20 pm

Yeah... another example of greed and dumbassery combining to wreck what should've been a fantastic film... or maybe two films AT MOST. I dislike those films so much that they aren't in my movie library.

Necron 99 · Post December 2nd, 2022, 8:58 am

Ancalagon wrote: ↑December 1st, 2022, 11:20 pm Yeah... another example of greed and dumbassery combining to wreck what should've been a fantastic film... or maybe two films AT MOST. I dislike those films so much that they aren't in my movie library.

You and I both. I have both of the Rankin/Bass animated films, Bakshi's LotR, and Jackson's extended LotR films. Everything else is drek as far as I'm concerned.

And it seems King Théoden would agree with your sentiment. Good article with a take from Bernard Hill.

King Théoden, Bernard Hill, Cares Not For The ‘Rings Of Power’

He may ride to ruin and the world’s ending, but the actor who so perfectly played King Théoden has no time for Amazon’s Rings of Power. When interviewed by Metro about his time in Middle Earth, veteran actor Bernard Hill did not appear to be too concerned with the Amazon series or being connected with it in any way. He did, however, call the series out for being something some fans would consider a cash grab, “It’s a money-making venture and I’m not interested in watching that or being in it. Good luck to them and all that stuff but it’s not like the real thing.”

Hill’s criticisms weren’t strictly aimed at the Amazon debacle. The actor also weighed in on Peter Jackson’s adaptation of The Hobbit, saying, “I think they were pushing it when they made The Hobbit. The Hobbit’s a tiny book.” He continued, “They expanded it [but] I think you can only stretch a piece of elastic so far.” The story of Bilbo’s grand journey is pretty short. However, Jackson managed to stretch Thorin and company’s trek to Lonely Mountain over three films.

The first season of Amazon’s 1 billion dollar non-canon Lord of the Rings prequel was met with mixed reactions. The Rings of Power raised a few eyebrows before it aired, with one of the red flags being when Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey left the production. Upon its premiere, there were noticeable changes to the overall lore and specific essential individuals. In addition, the series reinterpreted well-known characters to appease the mythical “modern audience.” Of course, criticism of the lore deviating from J.R.R. Tolkien’s works was met with the typical deflection tactics, i.e., calling people’ ists’ and ‘phobes.’

Even though there are significant issues with what is a fan-fiction prequel, Amazon appears to be pushing on with another season. It is rumored that those behind this production may be removed from the project, but multi-season contracts may prohibit that.

Ancalagon · Post December 3rd, 2022, 12:49 am

Yep.

*sniffs air*

Shite.

grodog · Post December 23rd, 2022, 2:39 pm

Still haven't watched RoP, but I've heard from many who are not Tolkien purists (i.e., haven't read The Silmarillion much less the appendicies in LOTR) that it's pretty good. Some friends and co-workers who are Tolkein fans also enjoyed it, but again, they're not diehard fans.

So, RoP is in our watch list queue, but it's not at the top, and my expectations are non-existent.

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On the Jackson Hobbit trilogy, there were many things that I liked about them, and many things that I loathed. Much like the Jackson LOTR films, really (which deviate much farther from the novels that I had remembered until a rewatch after a reread a few years ago).

I'll see if I can move into Amazon Prime Video sometime to work on the RoP if they end up needing to hire people with extensive Tolkien knowledge

Allan.

Captain_Blood · Post December 26th, 2022, 12:42 pm

I'll hop on this train. Peter Jackson's Hobbit films were... not good. His LoTR Trilogy is pretty damn good, and despite the divergences from the source material it appears to remain true to the spirit of the novels as adapted for Cinema. I haven't watched RoP, but iirc James was watching the show. How did it turn out?

Ancalagon · Post December 26th, 2022, 6:14 pm

Captain_Blood wrote: ↑December 26th, 2022, 12:42 pm I'll hop on this train. Peter Jackson's Hobbit films were... not good. His LoTR Trilogy is pretty damn good, and despite the divergences from the source material it appears to remain true to the spirit of the novels as adapted for Cinema. I haven't watched RoP, but iirc James was watching the show. How did it turn out?

For those who are fans of JRRT's Middle Earth source material, RoP is an inexcusable travesty. I'd estimate about 96%+ of the show is bad fan fiction that diverges from and ham handedly makes sausage of the source material.

For those who know nothing of JRRT's writings, the show is terrible. The writers for RoP are incompetent. Nothing is set up intelligently by the writers to pay off later in a manner that makes sense. Pretty much everything is just a convenient coincidence that occurs to push the fanfic "story" forward. I didn't use the word drive with regard to story progression as driving requires some basic coordination. The majority of the characters are (choose one or, in some cases, more) unlikable assholes, idiots, weak in character, untrue to the source material, needless fanfic invented by the writers. I found myself rooting for the orcs more often than not because all they want is a land/home to call their own.

As a reasonably intelligent guy, an example of the writers' extreme incompetence I found particularly insulting was when the main protagonist, Galadriel, easily the most unlikable asshole in the show, stand in the path of a pyroclastic flow and take it full on at the end of one episode... then is alive and well, no burns, no injuries, no jacked up hair, armor or clothes, no damaged lungs, no choking to death on ash in the throat, bronchial tubes, and lungs, etc., nor inconvenienced in any way, at the start of the next. No one within the proximity of the volcano should've had anything left of their bodies to be identified. A few villagers and soldiers of no importance died. One character was blinded but displayed no evidence of injury such as burns/damage around the eyes. Everyone else could just shower off and be good as new. I know RoP is supposed to be a fantasy show but nothing has been established as to how most folks are immune to pyroclastic flows. Rubbish, I say!